Field of Vision

**Uzik** · 18th June 2012, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Eldrath

http://www.embersofcaerus.com/forum/...ning-your-head

Reminds me of an old idea of mine...

I really like to see some great stuff with vision and perspective, because I think games nowadays limit themselves by copying old idea over and over...

That is a cool idea, but I would say that the field of vision and ability to turn your head are two different items.

Even with the ability to turn your head, having a narrow viewing perspective can be really annoying.

**Eldrath** · 18th June 2012, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Uzik

That is a cool idea, but I would say that the field of vision and ability to turn your head are two different items.

Even with the ability to turn your head, having a narrow viewing perspective can be really annoying.

Yes, I just wanted to throw this in here to maybe stir a discussion about how you want to experience the game as a whole. The FoV is an important part of it, but things like viewing distance, motion blur, head bobbing and movement controls tie tightly together. So I had the feeling that we may want to discuss all of it in one piece so everyone can have a say of how the game should feel like perspective and movement wise!

I`ll start. I hope the general feeling will be, that you control a characters body as a whole instead of being a floating sword/bow in the world. You should be able to see your body, do different sorts of movements and of course turn your head. As for the FoV I hope it`ll be customizable, so every players can work out how he likes to view the game.

**Glabro** · 18th June 2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Serpensio

I think there should be some form of Peripheral vision included as part of the screen, even if it doesn't look like it's peripheral. If the view is going to be as useful as wearing side-blinders, it's won't be as great as it could, particularly for PVP. We won't be able to see a sword coming at us from off to the side until it's already in us.

Even if messing with settings creates a "sense' of peripheral, if it's not true peripheral, it's nothing but cosmetic. A way to see slightly to the sides of your character while facing straight is necessary.
Also, head movement is a must, turning right, left up and down independent of the body to remain aware of your surroundings without having to turn around in a circle.

I agree.

**drakedude** · 18th June 2012, 11:37 AM

You know, this should probably go in a speed thread, but i dont want to see players instantaneously wipping thier heads around or spinning in circles. There's a limit to how fast you can turn as a human and that should be respected. It would be nice for people turning too quickly too trip, even. xD.

**Nefastus** · 18th June 2012, 01:18 PM

Maybe when you die and turn into a zombie, or get possessed by the devil, you will be able to spin your head?

**master** · 19th June 2012, 03:32 AM

Maybe when you die and turn into a zombie, or get possessed by the devil, you will be able to spin your head?

wouldn't that just tear the tissues and cause your head to fall off?

**Eldrath** · 19th June 2012, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by master

wouldn't that just tear the tissues and cause your head to fall off?

Not necessarily if they head was fixed to the neck by magic.

**Uzik** · 19th June 2012, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by drakedude

You know, this should probably go in a speed thread, but i dont want to see players instantaneously wipping thier heads around or spinning in circles. There's a limit to how fast you can turn as a human and that should be respected. It would be nice for people turning too quickly too trip, even. xD.

If it takes you more than 250ms to turn your head to the side you should probably go see a doctor about that.

But again, FoV and head turning, while related, are different items. The head turning can be balanced perfectly, but if FoV is too narrow or broad it can give us a very unrealistic viewing perspective.

**Theodric Vors** · 19th June 2012, 05:42 PM

Personally in regards to the 'Field of Vision' idea peripherals would be nice, though personally i'm hoping for the ability to turn your head without having to actually rotate your entire body as is so common in most games, perhaps using the Q and E buttons to do so. I am also hoping for the option for those of us who favor the use of armor to be restricted in our field of vision whilst wearing a helmet, or even the option to raise or lower our visors (if the helmet has one) in order to better our field of vision if only at the risk of exposing ourselves to more harm by doing so.

**Cargone** · 19th June 2012, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Theodric Vors

Personally in regards to the 'Field of Vision' idea peripherals would be nice, though personally i'm hoping for the ability to turn your head without having to actually rotate your entire body as is so common in most games, perhaps using the Q and E buttons to do so. I am also hoping for the option for those of us who favor the use of armor to be restricted in our field of vision whilst wearing a helmet, or even the option to raise or lower our visors (if the helmet has one) in order to better our field of vision if only at the risk of exposing ourselves to more harm by doing so.

Agreed, when people are wearing helmets they should see the helmet on them like it actually would, because of this it would also narrow there field of vision.